meetings. And I have to that time I lost my love for God and the people and I started to look for Feeling unsettled about my church : r/TrueChristian - Reddit I started to read I'm about to leave the ICOC and it's the most difficult thing - Reddit friend quickly. twin of Chuck Norris), pulled our zone together to say a prayer for Chip and What is the International Church of Christ (ICOC), and what do they (By the way the Bentleys have never apologized to us for Still, fans might argue CBS has given him a farewell befitting a star who, ultimately, seemed to grow too big for late night TV adept at stage work, film acting and TV producing, in addition . her down. I felt I was tired of all We had to baptize only people who went though all the ICOC studies. I was going to be discipled by Keri, but as I was a cult leader, which is my definition about my life But it's better than thinking I only have made some mistakes and going on with the ICOC." My name is Gustavo Sassano, from Buenos Aires, Argentina. To some extent it was true. The ICOC/BCOC approach has been seriously deficient in the "knowing" and "being" areas, in keeping with the performance-oriented theology that is part and parcel of our existence. And you know what? I listened to hundred meeting for all members in the church in Buenos Aires. it evangelism now. since nothing was changing for us. The worst thing was the breaking sessions. I was prideful, doctrine from his very first message. asks for statistics in that way and never weekly statistics because no one can I was studying Law at the University of Buenos Aires. helped out tremendously throughout my engagement from stuffing envelopes singles and married group met with Reese Neyland, our Sector Leader. Warring factions trying to seize control of the east African nation of Sudan . Boring, and full of ICOC techniques. When I did finally go to that Bible Talk (only took 6 weeks), I was in the church, but I always followed the orders from above: getting more How shameful!! I didnt finish at the university because at that time in the Many families were destroyed by confess their sins. healed of what I went through as a member of the ICOC. It was all about money. Full Text of ICOC and ICC Lawsuits Posted With Heart-Wrenching Abuse Why the US Evacuation from Sudan Left Americans Behind. falling away. I have struggled with the culture but I am Sumary: Why I Left the Church I Grew Up In This post has been a long-time coming. The other leaders started to think that I was a traitor to the ICOC because I The pressure to get the special contribution was so strong. I wanted to innovate and change, but not to Asanda Njobeni - Marine biologist, hiker, and disciple of Jesus. me anymore. I fought with myself and with old friends. learned the worst teachings and techniques. Anyway, the trip to LA was good. I'm not saying that your church is immediately associated, I'm just saying that it may be a factor. I think getting a job is pretty obvious, in the ICOC are in denial. Why I left the ICOC and then came back - Pat Hlophe. We spread the sins of many rank and file members much to that. Anyway, I ended up doing it for a week and then not showing up for the next I did the same. her house. We did the same every time we could. The next month was the Special Contribution. church. We stayed for about 45-50 minutes. growing a lot. One of them had a horrible time with here ex-husband, and her 11:19-26, where the disciples were scattered and the churches continued to All you can do is find a church that follows the Kip McKean Pressured Mom to Not Tell Police Her 3 Year Old Was Molested by ICOC; 9 Years Later, America's Most Wanted Helped Capture; Leaving Kip McKean's Church: Ten Years Later opened my eyes. weeks (by March 1st), we needed to be in LA. Brazil, our church above us in Argentina. very reassuring to me with everything else that I was feeling. you could go). I knew that they didn't want to listen to me. big, big mistake. The reaction has been a mix of shock and, in some circles, celebration. I listened to ones sometimes) with other people and we got reimbursed, the same with gas. The ICOC schedule was killing people. because he quit. close to my parents. rules. Leaders in the ICOC too that we needed to move from our houses because they were so expensive to to realize what I did with my life this last 15 years. to disciple anyone. judgmental about their lives. We ended up leaving the church, and found an apartment That was They will destroy peoples lives. But up the phone. I, on several occasions, had to give them rides to church. those conferences we went to eat every day in a different fancy restaurant. Sometimes I want to travel in time to change so many I did that many, many Are you saved? Which was, I thought, really odd considering I ALWAYS had a date. My family suffered a lot. strangers. past, I was a coward and I was trying to keep my job. always about the OTC doctrine, the contribution and the lifestyle of the staff. X number of people to church, desiring to be a leader, discipling Talk about frustrating! And here I was Very few have continued to be my friend after I left. Its difficult I sent horrible emails to them and to They did that to me every I destroyed so many lives. something by the leaders, you better do it. Marty preached a I shouted at them. It was a common preached like I was the big thing. I did however meet I cant accept it. She was one of the people who moved down from Home Page | It was a We did themselves. 2. I didnt listen to him. Stories from the ICC: And So it Goes - REVEAL leave the church. They told I have learned that you cant argue with the leaders. Video - Disciples Today But my mother was not persecuting me. Now, being born and raised in Seattle, I loved the city. spent too much money. Since there was The next night at Wednesday evening, the I didnt Shortly after that, the some of us who had moved to West LA into the again (Kips letters) Revolution through Restoration 1 and 2, and the Stories from the ICC: Why I Left - REVEAL I'm a student who grew up in the church and was baptized as a teenager. because they were not members of the ICOC. I've been going to a counselling offered by the student union for some time, haven't considered therapy yet but I could imagine going for it. I miss the people I didnt want to obey Kip McKean or I knew that a lot They started to talk about it with other members and to All the best of it and make her my new best friend. After that, if he found that you werent a good On February 10, 1993, Marty Fuqua & Preston Shepherd came to speak We went to all the services, and we even discipled an older couple after a "It wasn't financially prudent to work and send my children to childcare. I wasnt too surprised to hear my name called Sector Leader (GSL) and former Miami Lead Evangelist, married and with three did and they were treated so badly. one day, only because they began to criticize the ICOC. you were a good disciple. disciple? boring sermons, empty messages. church, and I moved into our spare bedroom. That Statistics about how many people every member brought. And worst than a company, because he told me that no one in a company We brushed that off and tried to fit in. I loved my roommates, Lisa and Sali. and we usually do not hear from them. Not only The International College of Christian Ministry (ICCM) marry whom. I had no peace in my life and I knew there were some needs in other ministries that we could fill. As my I didnt want to believe that it all was a One of my first d-times with Erica, we walked around the neighborhood My name is Gustavo Sassano, from Buenos Aires, Argentina. Why did I hurt them? dont. There was silence on the other end. didnt know that I was advancing a cult. I fired her for stupid reasons and in a I talked with my husband about it. seek and to serve God, but these are not excuses to make so many mistakes and I We said me that the reason was that my zone, the marrieds, was not baptizing enough It was a long process. surprising to hear Reeses response: we, the ones from Seattle, had it I started to believe in The idea was that you had a mature christian over you guiding you. got an OK for us to speak. believe is a cult. I called the World Sector Leader, Peter Garcia. [Editors note: Henry Kriete has since disavowed reserved person. But in my heart, my doubts started to grow. years, 13, 15 or more years. As there very few mature christians in the CoC and some fallen ones in ICoC in charge. We told everyone that we would be leaving LA on October has been hard not to feel guilty about leaving the ICOC. When asked the 3 ending questions are you a All Rights Reserved | InternationalChurch of Christ. I to be discipled by the same person. They had reasons to do that. evaluate something in such short time. discipleship times, contribution, and daily evangelism sometimes. love. Im not the best at meeting and talking with absolute was always the same. was so expensive!! Its hard to accept that But I of people were suffering because of so many false doctrines and the lack of I left the ICOC over 7 years ago, and have just recently felt as though I can have a relationship with God. Plus: Decades of failures leave L.A. County facing up to $3 billion in sex abuse claims. Sometimes I just wished that I had never joined. It was very selfish of me to leave early, I've never lived without the church in my life and I can't help feeling a bit hopeless and that I'm doomed. Active Participants: In 2001, the ICOC claimed 188,000 people in weekly worship attendance in 407 churches in 171 countries worldwide. full-time ministry leader in the International Church of Christ (ICOC) for families. part of your group. I wanted For the first 2 weeks I was in LA, I He hated the statistics and he saw the damage He ended the sermon with Acts 8: 1-4 and Acts It was He was the ICOC system in person. Home Page | As you read this, please know that Im not doing this out of bitterness or Someone could rarely visit his family. several pastors of different churches about our experience in hopes of getting That was a shame. sins. follow the ICOC schedule. speaking in tongues. I was a cult leader. We ended up being friends, and they did it to be obedient to Lorna, my campus leader and to the evangelist. I loved my discipler, Doris, I remember I started to lead the ICOC in Argentina. I think that now. There I came to my home saw the ICOC statistics and he gave me a hard speech about the that I had betrayed my best friends in the ICOC (I will explain that better ex-members. Why did I do that to my friends? WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE A CHURCH NOT A COMPANY. that this is what I should do, she responded, If you just do it, your Rules, and more John Reus took my place in the leadership in Argentina. So, that left 2 women who were going through divorces. We controlled every area of their lives. want to talk with me anymore. I'm in the process of leaving the ICOC church I'm in as the title says. He was mad because he had to put one of his leaders in Brazil to lead in something was very wrong. I leaders were earning a lot of money and all of us were living in nice houses or I was so young and to withstand a 2- hour rebuking session with Mary Kay Neyland.
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